Unlocking Intuition and Self-Love Insights from Avalaura Gaither Ep.82
Episode Overview
About Guest: Avalaura Gaither
Avalaura Gaither is the founder and CEO of Soulful Self-Care Solutions, a company dedicated to empowering individuals through holistic healing and wellness practices. With a background in psychology from Howard University and a master’s degree in social work, Avalaura initially began her career as a licensed social worker. However, after experiencing burnout in the field, she realized the limitations of traditional mental health systems. This led her to seek a more integrative approach to healing, blending her expertise in mental health with spiritual tools like meditation, Reiki, and dream analysis. Today, Avalaura is recognized for her ability to combine her education, life experience, and intuition to guide clients through personal transformation.
A sought-after speaker and wellness expert, Avalaura has spent over two decades helping high-achieving professionals—such as lawyers, doctors, and entrepreneurs—navigate life’s transitions, manage work-life integration, and prevent burnout. Her deep understanding of the unique challenges faced by these individuals enables her to connect with clients on a personal level, offering customized healing plans that address their emotional, physical, and spiritual needs. Avalaura’s work emphasizes self-care, self-love, and the power of intuition, encouraging clients to unlock their true potential and live fulfilling, purpose-driven lives.
In addition to her one-on-one coaching and speaking engagements, Avalaura is the author of the self-love guided journal Girl, Get Your F’ing Life, which has inspired a movement focused on personal growth and empowerment. She also leads Reiki retreats and workshops, training mental health professionals and others in holistic healing methods. Her retreats, such as the upcoming event in Morocco, provide an immersive experience in self-care, spiritual growth, and holistic wellness. With her diverse background and passion for healing, Avalaura Gaither continues to make a lasting impact in the fields of mental health and holistic care.
Episode Transcript
Becky Coplen : Thank you for returning to mastering counseling as we get to interview another awesome person today we have Avalaura Gaither. Welcome to the show today, Avalaura Gaither.
Avalaura Gaither: Thank you so much for having me, Becky.
Becky Coplen : I can’t wait to hear about the history of all of your work.AvaAvalaura Gaither, has experienced in the past as a social worker, and then has evolved in her work into doing a lot of speaking. She is now the proud owner of a company called soulful Self-care solutions. And, we’ll share with us about that and definitely take a holistic approach to helping her clients. And thank you just for being here. And why don’t you let’s kind of start at the most current right now. Tell us about soulful self-care And first of all, I already told her I love alliteration. So thank you for the three S’s. So tell us where you got that name and what is happening with that company.
Avalaura Gaither: Yeah. So what’s interesting is that’s the current but it’s also the past as well. Right. So the name comes from my past and you know, my experience and you know, as you know right now. So you know, self care in particular is probably one of the hot topics self-care burnout , work life integration. things that I talk about most to, you know, various companies and, you know, different conferences and things like that. And so I really wanted to focus the company around that, because that really is the primary work that I’ve been doing. Now for the last, I would say probably , 5 or 6 years since it’s been such a heavy focus, , particularly like during Covid and after Covid.
Becky Coplen : All right. Awesome. I love how you kind of brought the past and currently together. I like that. Yeah. What way? Maybe longer ago. What brought your interest into social work in the first place? Or even into the field of mental health?
Avalaura Gaither: Yeah. You know, it’s one of those things that at 18, right, you go to college and you have to pick a major, right? You have to decide what you want to do with your life. Yep. Like, who came up with these rules? How are you supposed to know at 18 years old what you want to do? , but I chose psychology. I went to Howard University in Washington, DC, and I majored in psychology. And my mother had majored in psychology, even though she’s a lawyer. And really, it was because it was something that I was always good at. I’m the oldest of three children. I was the one always advising or, you know, some might think it was being bossy, but for me, I was helping them because I thought I knew better. Mhm. , but people actually took my advice and listened. So I thought that it was something that I could do. And so my goal was to go into psychology. You know, at that point I thought I was going to get a PhD in psychology and do that whole thing, and that did not work out, thank God, because I really did not need to go down the PhD track. And so I decided after talking to a mentor to go into social work, he was like, you know, you can really do the same thing that you wanted to do with a PhD with social work, and you don’t want to teach anyway.
Avalaura Gaither: So, you know, why are you going down that path? So that’s what I did. So I chose social work. I got into social work. And then I realized I was like, mhm. I don’t think this is going to work for me. , because one of the things I realized was how limited the system is in terms of how it’s set up and how you can help people. And what I understand is that we’re human beings, right? And that we are not one size fits all, right? Everything doesn’t work for everybody. And it really does take a holistic approach. I knew, from my own journey, what I needed for my own healing. And so I also recognize we don’t talk about spirituality. We don’t talk about energy. We don’t talk about all of these things. , and so it’s really not going to work for me. And I just didn’t feel like the system was really set up to help people heal. So I decided, you know what? I’m gonna take this background. I’m gonna take social work and psychology. and I’m really going to blend it with the holistic because people really need more in order to heal. Mhm.
Becky Coplen : All right. Thank you for that. I’m glad we often have people do things that they find out they don’t like, and then it pushes them into something else. So good to hear. I just went deeper. Yeah. There you go. That’s another way of looking at it too. Well, let’s talk about some of those deeper modalities that you like to work in and what separates you from a lot of other therapists or counselors. And you are a life coach. So even maybe what’s a different avenue for that as well?
Avalaura Gaither: Yeah. you know, it’s so interesting because all of these names. Right? Like, they’re kind of misnomers, right? Because it really is the individual person. Right. And especially when we come into coaching, a lot of people have issues with coaching because they say it’s not regulated. You really don’t know what you’re getting. What does that mean to be a life coach? And so for me, one of the things that definitely sets me apart is that I actually do have a mental health background. I’ve worked in a mental health profession. You know, I have my master’s degree. You know, I have been licensed. And so it’s not some, you know, kind of woo woo thing in the sky that I just decided, oh, you know, I improved my life so I can help other people too. Mhm. Although that really is a part of it. But using my own life experience, using my own education but also using my intuition as well. And I think that that’s something that we don’t talk about enough, particularly as women because we do have intuition. It is powerful. And when you’re not using that in your profession, in your life, in your business, you’re actually suppressing something that will set you apart from everybody else. , will, that does help you to be more powerful. That does help you to be more successful, helps you to make more money. but most of us don’t really know how to tap into that, or we don’t know how to use it. We suppress it, we deny it. You know, it’s like, , I don’t know what that is or, you know, oh, I don’t see evidence of that. So that’s not really important. It must, you know, it must not be a thing since I don’t have evidence of it or, you know, nobody else can confirm it. Right. Or validate it. , and so I think those things really over the past 20 years, now that I’ve been in this field, have really set me apart, is that I’m using all of these different facets and combining them together.
Becky Coplen : Okay, okay. Very interesting. And as you were talking about intuition, because we haven’t talked about that on here as much in a while, Can you give us maybe 1 or 2 examples of a session or a scenario? Obviously, without giving away the person where you were able to tap into that intuition and have it be helpful for your client.
Avalaura Gaither: Yeah. I mean, there’s so many times that this has happened. So it’s hard to pick out, like one thing. Yeah. but usually what happens is, you know, I think, like most people. Right. You’re doing a deep dive in the beginning with your client. You know, therapists usually call it like an intake process or something like that. and I have my own way of doing that. But usually what happens is when I’m listening, you know, I’m hearing what’s going on beneath the surface. And of course, there’s training in that, right? Like, these are things that we’re trained to do, but there’s also, like this little voice or this little nudge, like, ask about this or what’s going on there. And so it just allows me to get deeper quickly with my clients. because I’m listening to my intuition, I have access to that, and I can hear the things that they’re not really saying that are really the drivers of what’s going on in their life and why they are where they are. and having some of the problems that they are, because the reality is, you could spend a lifetime talking to people and still not know everything. And you see it all the time. You see the, you know, the shows or commercials and things like that where people are lying to their therapist. Right. Or they’re not completely telling the truth. Like, I just finished watching Mr. and Mrs. Smith on Prime, and it was actually really good. The series, not the movie. And, you know, there’s some episodes in there where they’re going to couples counseling and they’re completely lying to the therapist. Yeah. And so it’s I think it’s important to have that voice when people aren’t, you know, then it may not be lying but they’re not also telling the truth. And sometimes it’s because they don’t know it, or sometimes they really just don’t want to admit it or speak it out loud.
Becky Coplen : Yeah, yeah. Love those little cultural connections. And it is always fun to see this field in shows and movies and the way that it’s portrayed, for sure. Would you talk to us a little bit about what types of clients you have coming to you? I’m sure through the years you’ve had all types, but do you find yourself helping people mainly through things like anxieties and depression? Is it more like someone jumping into a new career and they need that push? What kinds of clients are you seeing most in the last year or two?
Avalaura Gaither: Yeah. So, you know, my clients are they’re they’re pretty cool, right? Like they’re literally like my mirror in some ways. And so that’s why I love it. Because, you know, I needed somebody like me when I was going through my life transitions. And so that’s what I see a lot with my clients. They’re very well educated. So, you know, Masters, PhDs, JDS. I worked with a lot of lawyers, very, you know, high powered, overachieving. You know, they have to do everything right. Perfectionists, they’ve done very well in their careers. They’ve done very well in a lot of aspects of their life. And so when they get to that mountaintop and it’s not what they thought it was going to be, it’s like I worked so hard to get here. I’m finally here, and this is not it. I’m not happy, I’m not fulfilled. And, you know, I feel like I’ve been sold a bill of goods, you know what I mean? Like, I thought it was going to be better than this. And you know what I see a lot of times is that that motivation, that push to succeed, a lot of times comes out of their trauma, but it also comes out of people in their lives who’ve told them, this is what you’re supposed to do, you know, go to school, get your education, get this job here, you know, get married, get have children. The white picket fence And what they realize is that that’s not their dream.
Avalaura Gaither: That was somebody else’s dream. And now that they’ve reached it, they realize there’s other things that they want to do, but they’re not necessarily sure what that is. And so sometimes that comes out in the marriage feeling like, you know what, I’ve been married for ten years, 15 years, 20 years. But we got married young. And now this relationship is not fulfilling to this new version of who I am or who I’m becoming or yes, it looks like career. I’m not happy in my career. This is a toxic work environment. I want to start my own business, or I want to do something that’s more fulfilling for me. Something that I feel like I’m leaving a legacy or I’m really making an impact. And not just money. You know, sometimes it’s with themselves personally, like, what is my purpose? Like, I’m over here. I’m, you know, I’ve made this money, I have this outward success, but I don’t feel like I’m tapping into my purpose or doing anything that’s really meaningful in my life. So it kind of comes out in various ways. But ultimately what it is is that they’ve achieved some level of success. They’ve really worked hard to get there, but now they recognize they’re not fulfilled there. And there’s something else that’s calling them, and it’s trying to figure out what that is.
Becky Coplen : Thank you. That was a great summary of all the types of people and the phases that might be in. And, it’s always awesome when you can help people in the way that other people helps you for sure. So absolutely glad that you’re doing that. Let’s explore a little bit about the behind the scenes part of soulful self-care. And are you the sole person working in it? Do you have admin people? Do you? Are you hiring others? What does it look like beyond you and how you operate day to day?
Avalaura Gaither: Yeah, so it is primarily me, but I do have a team, so I keep marketing is extremely important. If you don’t have a marketer, I don’t know what you’re doing in your business. , so I have a very good brander and marketer. I also have assistants. A lot of social media. Also, some of the behind the scenes things that you’re talking about. , looking at maybe hiring somebody to assist with, , speaking engagements and things like that. So I sort of hire as needed is really more per project as opposed to just having staff there.
Becky Coplen : Okay. Okay. So it’s kind of changing all the time based on the needs that you have. Okay. So you are doing , speaking to groups. What type of groups are calling you? And I would love to know why you would need to hire someone for that. Is it like the scheduling and all of that, or what is that person look like?
Avalaura Gaither: Yeah, so I work. I’ve done a lot of speaking for various corporations, big and small, virtual and in person. Although it’s interesting, we’re seeing a lot of people kind of going back to virtual right now because they’re, you know, employees all over the world, right? Like a lot of people working from home. And so yeah, so a lot of the speaking is actually virtual, but a lot of in-person as well. I’ve spoken at, you know, various conferences. You know, it could be a business conference. And, hey, I want you to talk about work life integration or, you know, preventing burnout and things like that. Mental health conferences. I have a speaking engagement coming up next month at a mental health conference. So a lot of conferences, a lot of, expos. Okay. Again, around, , self-care, , self-love and things like that. A lot of expos, a lot of women’s events, brunches. I actually have my own brunch that I’m actually having in a couple months. You know, girl, get your effing life. And it’s about self-love and self-care and sisterhood. So there are a lot of various types of places, which I love. So it keeps me busy. It also is a different experiences. And so it can be very corporate to, you know, a church over here, you know, but really it’s all the same topics because we all want to know the same things. And in terms of hiring a person for that, a lot of people do find me. But one of the things that I realized, and this was for me, is that I wasn’t looking for speaking engagements. I was simply depending on the people who were finding me. And so potentially hiring somebody that can go out and find those other speaking engagements that may not have naturally just come to me.
Becky Coplen : Okay. Yeah, that helps clarify for sure. All right. Well, that’s awesome that you’re doing all this sharing and a lot of the same points in all different areas. So and I mean we.
Avalaura Gaither: All need stress relief, right? We all need work life integration no matter what type of work that we’re doing. You know, we all need to know how to, you know, how to focus on our boundaries. And you know, so you know, we’re humans, right. And so no matter where we are in life, we’re all dealing with the same things. Mhm.
Becky Coplen : Um, and I was wondering when you’re working with individual clients, are you completely virtual or do you do in person or a little bit of both? I am.
Avalaura Gaither: Completely virtual. I do have some VIP clients that you know, I for them. I’ll see them in person. They may fly me out or we’ll meet here in the DC area or something like that. But otherwise, yes, I’m completely virtual. Okay.
Becky Coplen : All right. Yeah, it’s just amazing. So many people are doing that. And when you speak, do just personal preference. When you do a speaking engagement, do you prefer online or do you like being on the stage in front of a huge group?
Avalaura Gaither: Yeah, I mean, you know, it’s like both have their pluses and negatives, right? Like what I love about virtual is the flexibility. You know, if you’re speaking virtually I can speak that day. And you know I can take off the rest of the day because I do believe, you know, self-care, right? You need to take care of yourself. But I can do other things because I’m still home. You know, I’m here. I don’t have to worry so much about my outfit. Right? Because you’re only seeing top up. You know, I just got to make sure this looks good. Okay, now here I could be in my yoga pants. Pajama pants. I could be very comfortable. Right. And so those type of things. But it is sometimes harder to get engagement. You have to be really good at what you do, , you know, to make sure that you’re getting engagement virtually. And fortunately, I am. But it does take a little bit more work to do that. Whereas in person, you know, it’s the whole thing. You know, it’s more time consuming, you know, travel. You gotta worry about the whole outfit. You know, you gotta, you know, do all of those things. You’re having to take more time off from your day to day because you have, you know, the travel time and things like that. But the energy in the room is special. and sometimes it’s, it’s easier to make that connection and to make that impact because you’re physically there.
Becky Coplen : Mhm. Yeah. I was just curious about that. So thank you for sharing those little ins and outs. Some people that are listening may go into that realm, and it’s good to know the little things that pair with each. So one thing I wanted to explore is that you do some hypnotherapy in your work. Can you talk about how that looks, especially if it is virtual and. Yeah, because honestly, I don’t think I’ve explored virtual hypnosis practices.
Avalaura Gaither: So yeah, I mean, here’s the thing. It’s really all the same because when during hypnotherapy you’re seated, you’re comfortable, you’re hearing the sound of my voice. Mhm. You can do all of that virtually. , so the only difference is when it’s in person I’m controlling the environment. Whereas when it’s virtual you have to have more control over the environment. But I’m telling you kind of what’s important, you know, you don’t want to be there and you have the kids running around and the dog, right, right. Like that’s not that’s not necessarily going to work right So it’s those type of things that you have to manage, but otherwise it really is the same.
Becky Coplen : Okay. Alright. Good to know. Yeah. And that the environment is very much. Have you ever tried to do it and people haven’t controlled their environment? Well. And then do you just stop it in the middle.
Avalaura Gaither: I’m really good at pivoting that. So I’ll make it work. We don’t stop. We just.
Becky Coplen : We make. Yeah. Okay, good. Let’s, maybe just talk about some advice for people who may be newer to running any type of practice or anything on their own. Are there any pitfalls along the way that you wish you’d avoided? I mean, we know we all learn from them, but what would be some good things for people newer to this field to know?
Avalaura Gaither: Yeah, I think that it’s really so a couple things. One, burnout is real. that’s certainly what happened at my first few jobs. And one of the reasons that I was like, nope, I can’t do this or I have to get out. And it’s interesting because we didn’t even talk about burnout then. Mhm. so I didn’t even know that that was what I was experiencing until years later. But it was really a burnout. So burnout is absolutely real. That is something that you really want to plan for that you will want to guard yourself against that. You want to start implementing self-care practices you know, from the beginning and build those habits. Because if you’re seeing clients, it is bound to happen. It’s it’s it’s it’s just a natural part of the profession. The other thing is, if you decide that you want to go into private practice, which, you know, a lot of, a lot of mental health professionals are now because they’re seeing, you know, how little they’re making at agencies versus now starting their own practices, how they get to keep the money, you know, but then you have to go through, you know, insurance and, you know, doing all of these things. And I’ve never taken insurance as a life coach. We actually don’t.
Avalaura Gaither: But that was something that I made a decision very early on that I didn’t want to take insurance because I wanted to be able to decide how I could help my client. I didn’t want to have something like insurance. Tell me you can or cannot do these things. and so if you decide to go, you know, private pay, you have to know how to run a business. You have to know how to market yourself. We are not taught that in school. We are taught, you know, diagnosis, right? We are taught how to work with our clients. We are not taught how to run a business and how to market ourselves. And that is something that I wish that much earlier on that I had learned. I really went through the school of hard knocks for years before I kind of, you know, figured that out and finally decided to get a business coach and really focus on that. And so that is a real thing. And so I actually, have a mastermind for healers, you know, mental health professionals, healers. you know, I teach Reiki and things like that. And we talk about the business side of things because most of us, we’re just as clueless. And that will make or break your business.
Becky Coplen : Mhm. Yeah. No thank you. Those are good advice for sure. And we’re glad to learn what we can even though it was tough for you. But look at where you are now. So turned out good. All a part.
Avalaura Gaither: Of the journey.
Becky Coplen : Yeah for sure. Can you also do work with yoga and dream analysis? So I’d love for you to talk about that. I feel like, you know, people are very familiar with yoga, but dream analysis, probably not as much. So maybe explain that a little bit and how you use that.
Avalaura Gaither: Yeah. Now for yoga. I don’t practice yoga anymore in terms of teaching it. I am trained in yoga. Really. I teach more meditation. And so that’s something that I integrate. And, you know, like you said, most people, I hope at this point know about meditation, although there are things that people don’t know that I’m still finding. but yeah, I do use a variety of different tools. Reiki is probably my main holistic tool that I use and I teach Reiki. You know, I have retreats where I teach other mental health professionals how to do Reiki and how to integrate it into their practice as well. , dream interpretation, I think, is something that depending on where you learn, you know, you know, psychology, social work, whatever aspect of mental health that you’re in, you may or may not get a touch of it. I did, but it was, you know, it was kind of about Freud and Jung and, you know, that sort of thing and not really much into that. Dreams are really very spiritual in nature. And so learning this, the language of dreams, as I say, like that spiritual language, you know, a lot of times when we are learning something, we try to equate it from what we know. Right? And so we’re only looking at it from our perspective. And we don’t understand to look at a different perspective or a different language, so to speak. And so, you know, like for example, if I’m learning Spanish, right? And I say hello, you know, I’m thinking hello, but in Spanish it’s Hola. So you have to learn in Spanish what the same words or what the same things mean. And that’s really what it is for dream interpretation. You have to learn what the symbols mean when you see something, what it means, because it’s not the same thing as you think. It’s not literal, you know? So we look at dreams very literal, but it’s not it’s a different language and you have to learn that language. Mhm.
Becky Coplen : So interesting. Yeah. Probably four times a year I have the wackiest dreams. It’s always people completely non connected in my life like my third grade teacher, my cousin and then you know a coworker and you’re like why are they all together. It’s so crazy. And it may not.
Avalaura Gaither: Even be important.
Becky Coplen : Yeah that’s.
Avalaura Gaither: The thing. It’s not even necessarily important. It’s what’s happening in the dream. And so even that like a lot of us, we don’t even know what to look for in our dreams. We focus on the things that aren’t even important because we don’t know.
Becky Coplen : Yeah, very interesting for sure. So you mentioned that you also lead retreats. You have a lot of things happening. Definitely. I do like you. And I do feel like you have that high energy that you love at all. I love it. Yeah.
Avalaura Gaither: I would be bored if I didn’t.
Becky Coplen : Yeah. So you’re seeing clients and coaching them up, and then you’re running retreats for other mental health workers?
Avalaura Gaither: It’s really anyone who’s interested in Reiki. So some are. You know, a lot of my students are mental health, have their own practices because they really want to infuse holistic wellness into their practice. They understand that a lot of clients want to understanding the significance of it. And so I’ve trained a lot of mental health professionals in Reiki so that that’s something that they can integrate into their practices as well. So yeah. So I have right now Reiki retreats actually have a retreat coming up in Morocco in November, and so be learning Reiki one and two. , so so yeah, it’s a lot of fun. It’s like, if you’re gonna do it, you know, do it.
Becky Coplen : Right. So it’s a way to incorporate.
Avalaura Gaither: All these things that I’m talking about.
Becky Coplen : Yeah. So you go international and these are like overnight three day things. Oh yeah.
Avalaura Gaither: This is a seven day retreat.
Becky Coplen : Seven day. Oh, wow. Awesome. So I’m thinking you’ve been to a lot of cool places. , this.
Avalaura Gaither: Will be the first, , sort of international one.
Becky Coplen : I’m doing.
Avalaura Gaither: , I’m looking at next year, kind of what we’re going to do, maybe having. And again, because like you said, I do a lot. So managing my own energy. Right. Managing my own self-care, looking at what I can conceptually do. Well. So do I want to have one local? Do I want to have one international every year? How do I want to do that? So those are things that I’m looking at. But yeah, this is international because I mean let’s go somewhere. We all want to go.
Becky Coplen : Yeah, yeah That’s awesome. And I imagine some type of resort center that the same place. Yeah. This is actually.
Avalaura Gaither: At a black women owned wellness and healing retreat. Yes. So she’s actually, you know, an American woman, black woman who moved there and created this, I mean, amazing retreat center.
Becky Coplen : That’s so cool, I love that. Yeah, I hope that goes well. And you have a great time there. How many people are attending? Like hundreds. Thousands? Oh, God. No, you can’t.
Avalaura Gaither: Train hundreds of thousands. Oh, yeah.
Becky Coplen : That does sound like a lot. Retreats are really.
Avalaura Gaither: For now. You have some people that have retreats, and they’re like hundreds of people. That’s not a retreat. To me, retreats was supposed to be intimate. They’re supposed to be small. People are supposed to be able to get one on one attention. That’s the whole point of a retreat. That’s a conference.
Becky Coplen : Yeah. Yes, it was seven people. Yeah. So it’ll be very small.
Avalaura Gaither: It’ll be small. And it’s meant to be, especially when you’re dealing with something like Reiki. You want it to be small because I’m personally training everybody and I want to make sure that they leave knowing what they’re doing.
Becky Coplen : Okay. So and then so you have that going on and then you have of course all the engagements speaking online or in person. for businesses, churches or wherever is needed. Am I missing any other part of your career right now or is that, um. Oh, yeah. I mean, my.
Avalaura Gaither: Journal, I, I wrote a self-love guided journal this year called girl, Get Your F in life because I was like, it’s it’s 2024 and we gotta stop playing small. We just have to stop talking about all the things that we want to change and do and not doing it. And so that’s really started a whole self-love movement for women, actually. Let me show you this is the journal. So girl, get your f ING life.
Becky Coplen : Oh my word.
Avalaura Gaither: And then it’s going to be featured. I’m not even going to say where, but it will be featured on TV soon. But I launched so I have brunches. So girl, get your f ING life brunches. So I have one back in May. I’m having another one in October. And it’s phenomenal here in the DC area. And it was really about, you know, really soul food sisterhood and self-love. Like just connecting, having an experience with each other, growing like you’re getting some education. We’re talking about some important things, but also having fun because I think as adults we forget to play. You know, everything is just so you know, we’re talking about business. It’s just so business oriented. It’s so serious. All these things that you have to do, and we forget to have fun and we forget to play and we forget to do the things that we enjoy in life that make it meaningful. Mhm.
Becky Coplen : Mhm. That’s so fun. we did have someone a few episodes back who was also doing special brunches. They would do a lot of group therapy and things like that. And then once a year all the people that she had worked with, they would actually fly in for this special, just like one day brunch thing is like a whole thing. So I’m sure you would love it as well. The way they were doing it But yeah, Very cool. A lot of exciting things that you have going on. Is there anything else you feel like our listeners would want to know about that you’re doing, or did we cover all of it?
Avalaura Gaither: I’m like, is that everything? I mean, TV, there’s always TV, but, you know.
Becky Coplen : Oh, well, what do you mean about TV? Are you on TV?
Avalaura Gaither: Um, I have been on TV and I will be again, but I cannot make that announcement. But. Yeah. And that’s been a joy. That’s something that I definitely want to do more of. I think, you know, when you’re a true healer at heart, you want to help as many people as you can. And I love my one on one work. I love that deep rooted healing work, but I also love when I can speak to the masses, because that’s really important, because there’s a lot of people that I’ll never personally work with. Yeah. And so if there’s a way that I can speak to them and help them. Tv is an amazing way to do that. And so is speaking, of course. But TV is definitely a phenomenal way to do that. Mhm.
Becky Coplen : All that is very exciting. I love all the cool things that you’re doing and all the energy you have towards it. And your passion for helping people is amazing. So yes, thank you so much for giving us your time today,
Avalaura Gaither: thank you for having me, I appreciate it.
Becky Coplen : Yeah, well, we wish you the best on this, , retreat coming up and the also exciting ventures that we couldn’t quite talk about. and congrats on your writing and all the work that you’re doing. To our listeners, we hope you enjoyed today. , please feel free to look up Avalaura Gaither and find out more about all the work that she’s doing. Leave us comments and posts on social media. I’m signing off for today. Have a wonderful day.